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Six thoughts on hoops coaches
Here are a six quick thoughts on basketball coaches:
— My favorite coach on the University of Dayton staff the past several years has been Billy Schmidt. The Flyers associate head coach is a hard worker, he’s good at what he does and, best of all, he’s just flat out a good man.
— Anthony Grant has his fingerprints all over this post-season. The Alabama coach — and former Dayton Flyers player and team captain — has his Crimson Tide in the NIT title game tonight at Madison Square Garden.
Before coming to Tuscaloosa two years ago, he was the head coach of VCU, which is everyone’s Cinderella story this year and meets Butler in one of Saturday’s Final Four games in Houston. Grant coached several of the players on that team and recruited even more of them, including the seniors Joey Rodriguez, Jamie Skeen, Brandon Rozzell and junior Bradford Burgess.
By the way, Grant’s top assistant at Alabama is Dan Hipsher, the former Dayton Flyers assistant coach on Don Donoher’s staff.
— I doubt any college coach in the history of the game has sky-rocketed his reputation and his marketability more than VCU’s Shaka Smart has in the past 16 days. The former UD assistant has taken his much-maligned VCU team and guided it past five straight power conference teams: USC (Pac-10), Georgetown (Big East), Purdue (Big Ten), Florida State (ACC) and Kansas (Big 12).
He’s made several well-noted, astute coaching moves along the way and his team has dispatched of the five by an average winning margin of 12 points.
By the way one of his assistants is Kyle Getter, the former Miamisburg High basketball standout who was previously on the UD and Wright State staffs.
— When he was at Wright State, Brad Brownell could never get a game against UD’s Brian Gregory. Now that he’s at Clemson and Gregory’s at Georgia Tech, their ACC schedule will put them going against each other once or twice every regular season.
— This season, WSU’s Billy Donlon was able to do what his better-known coaching counterparts — Florida’s Billy Donovan, Wisconsin’s Bo Ryan, Pitt’s Jamie Dixon and old Dominion’s Blaine Taylor — could not in the NCAA Tournament. He beat Butler.
— One of my Columbus friends tells me Ohio State is making a big push to help OSU assistant coach Jeff Boals land the vacant UD coaching job.
Boals, from Magnolia, Ohio, played at Ohio University, then served as some form of assistant at OU, University of Charleston (a Division II school in West Virginia), Robert Morris and Akron, where he made a splash as a recruiter.
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By Sully '81
April 2, 2011 10:18 PM | Link to this
Here’s a thought: Hire the guy that hires the Xavier coaches to hire our next coach—this guy is a genuis!
By LITTLE BOBBY MILLER
April 2, 2011 12:09 PM | Link to this
no mention of chris collins ….who would not want this guy running the operation?
By CincyUD
April 1, 2011 5:58 PM | Link to this
How about Pat Kelsey, XU top a*s’t, Mack turns down Tennessee, will be at XU for awhile. He is has been the main recruiter, ready for head coaching job, close to home! He WILL be either XU’s head coach in a few years or at another top program!!
By Indy Dan - UD Alum
April 1, 2011 5:30 PM | Link to this
Bruiser Flint couldn’t cut it at UMass; why would they bring him to UD. The AD said he wanted a successful candidate. If Flint is hired, I won’t be happy with the choice. I would have loved to have Anthony Grant but he is outgrown UD.
By Don't get it
April 1, 2011 12:51 PM | Link to this
I’m not sure how Anthony Grant is an improvement, getting rid of a coach who won the NIT last year for a coach who is in the NIT this year, sounds like some people want a repeat of what we just had
By Chris
April 1, 2011 12:43 PM | Link to this
There’s always unintended consequences with these things. If Graves gets the job he may recruit too many Indiana players leaving no room for the best player from Alter or Centerville. Also,do the Alumni and other fans really want to spend all that time & money EVERY March with a prolonged season?
By deltaz
April 1, 2011 11:26 AM | Link to this
ted kissell’s comments are illustrative of the difference between the administration and long suffering UD fans. THEY see UD as a nice midwestern catholic private school mid-major program whose fans should be happy with the limited goals set and moderate success achieved by this program over the past decades.Dreams of multiple A-10 championships and NCAA elite 8/final four are to be reserved for big name programs like Xavier and Butler. Wonder if Kissell will tell Brad Stevens to have his kids take off those’Rose Colored Glasses’ and stop dreaming about the final four. OH WAIT! They are in the final four for the second year in a row,a liberal arts school with about half the enrollment of UD and no where near the facilities and revenue of UD. If the next UD coach does not stand up @ his first press conference and state clearly that his goals are for this team to win A-10 championships and get to the elite 8/final four ,you have hired the wrong guy(or girl), and the legacy of mediocrity will continue.
By babel2
April 1, 2011 9:07 AM | Link to this
Spearman and Staten transferring to Georgia Tech. Calipari buys house in Oakwood. Centerville cat taught how to whistle. Apple moves headquarters to Moraine. NCR returning to Dayton. Trent Meachem playing in Austria; regrets transferring from Dayton.
By Flyer Faithful Dude
April 1, 2011 1:45 AM | Link to this
How could anyone want Staten and Spearman back after all the negative “I” and “me” stuff and BS (as in Billy Staten) sticking his idiot self into the mix! The players would revolt and the new coach would see these guys transfer again as no coach would put up with their personal demands over the team’s needs. I personally hope they do well, but somewhere else FOR SURE.
By Flyboy
March 31, 2011 9:51 PM | Link to this
Bruce Pearl is a perfect fit for UD. He’s going nowhere and needs a semi-reputable program to recover from his crap.
By JohnnyBall
March 31, 2011 9:32 PM | Link to this
All those names are a waste and you have to be kidding about putting Billy Schmidt as head coach. We need a fresh start with a young energetic coach. Give me Matt Graves or Chris Collins any day.
By jimmie
March 31, 2011 9:01 PM | Link to this
@gene - That’s an easy question to answer. Borovich went from #2 assistant to #1 assistant. It was a move up the ladder. Great move for Jon.
By babel2
March 31, 2011 8:39 PM | Link to this
What does it mean to coach in/at University of Dayton? Well, today I just got some pics. in an old envelope sent by Andy Hallum, in my high school Class of ‘57. The pics were of a mini-reunion we held in San Francisco in fall of 1990. In the upper left corner — Andy is evidently still using his dad’s stock of old envelopes — it reads “Hallum Furniture Co. — Fine and Medium Grade Furniture.” Andy is in San Marino, CA 91108 and has done more for the world than anyone else I know. But the printed envelope puts it just right — no false hype. “Dayton Basketball — Fine and Medium Grade Basketball.” Hallum Furniture was just a stone’s throw from UD too.
By flyer paul
March 31, 2011 8:19 PM | Link to this
Those recommending Billy Schmidt havn’t been paying attention: BG gave him the substitution responsibility, so he was the guy subing for the player who just got into the flow of the game by making his first shot - and that was after 1:30 had been played in the game - Al McGuire was famous for saying one needed to break a sweat to get into the action; If Billy had a “style” of coaching, he surely would have influenced BG with the game preparation, game adjustments he so sorely lacked; If Billy was influential with the players, he should have helped BG head off the mutany that killed this past promising season, and could have counciled Staten & Spearman to play team ball & stay put. No, UD needs a clean break from BG - thank Billy and be thankful BG will take him to Atlanta!
By Out of the box
March 31, 2011 7:24 PM | Link to this
Johnny Davis or Jim Paxson or Ant Grant
By null
March 31, 2011 7:03 PM | Link to this
Bruce Pearl is a sleezy slimeball. No ethics. Perfect fit for UD.
By null
March 31, 2011 6:45 PM | Link to this
Hands down, Bruce Pearl. He made a mistake and tried to correct it, but was too late. I didn’t go to UD but have been a fan all my life. UD grads need to quit being so righteous and give him a chance. He will win, he will recruit, and you may not believe it now but will be a great representative of the university.
By mymindisclear
March 31, 2011 6:42 PM | Link to this
Chris Collins should be approached!
By Gene
March 31, 2011 6:24 PM | Link to this
Does anyone know why Jon Borovich bolted to coach at a lower ranked midmajor program? What is going on at UD that is causing everyone to jump ship?
By Flyer '80
March 31, 2011 5:48 PM | Link to this
C’mon, folks…some of the names don’t make sense. Frischella hasn’t coached since ‘02, finishing w/a poor conference record at New Mexico. Gillen is much the same, and both do OK as media guys. The NCAA is going to hammer Pearl, who’s been dirty since his days as an Iowa asst in the late 80’s. Sure, call Grant & Smart, but they’re not coming. Lickliter would be a decent choice, don’t know much about Boals, and Schmidt has too much BG baggage. Finally, folks, let go of Donoher. He was great in the ‘60’s, but UD under-achieved in the 70’s and the game passed him by in the 80’s. Respect his legacy but don’t hire his assistants.
By MisterTim
March 31, 2011 5:31 PM | Link to this
If Billy Schmidt was to get the job, then he could stand on the fact that “he was an Assistant to the guy who was an Assistant to Tom Izzo”.
By CoachingCandidates
March 31, 2011 5:07 PM | Link to this
I’ve been wondering if Fran Fraschilla has expressed an interest. My gut tells me he has. (He used to be an assistant at OU for those that like area ties.)If so, I’d be VERY disappointed if UD doesn’t pursue him as a serious option. I really like the Lickliter suggestion as well. Why take a chance on a Butler assistant if you can get a Butler guy that’s already proven to be a good HC?
By Brian
March 31, 2011 4:32 PM | Link to this
I think it is time to show Don Donoher some respect, he not only won games, but loved the community and loved the school. Selecting Dan Hipsher would bring back that passion. He would bring us back to the glory years of Coach Donoher. Hipsher would be a great basketball coach for us as he demonstrated at Wittenberg and Akron.Obviously Anthony Grant thinks a lot of him to include him on his staff at Alabama.
By MikeKelly
March 31, 2011 2:23 PM | Link to this
IONAS KEVIN CLUESS WOULD BE A CHOICE.
By How About?
March 31, 2011 2:22 PM | Link to this
How about Todd Lickliter who was the coach at Butler from 2001-2007? Iowa was dumb in letting him go and he knows “The Butler Way”
By Ponemeister '83
March 31, 2011 2:22 PM | Link to this
All I want is a coach whose idea of a “brilliant” basketball play when the game is tied near the end of regulation, is to have his players stand around and dribble the ball until there are two seconds left on the clock - then launch some off balance bomb and watch it clank harmlessly, but loudly, off the rim. BG was famous for that. And now I lost all respect for Billy Donovan for the same thing. His end-game strategy vs. Butler was horrible!
By pzierolf
March 31, 2011 2:06 PM | Link to this
Billy Schmidt head coach,you’ve got to be kidding
By Chicago
March 31, 2011 2:05 PM | Link to this
Slag, its a little more complicated than that. UD basketball revenue funds virtually EVERY other athletic program at the University so it’s not really arrogance or greed, it’s economic reality. The other alternatives would be to cut some of the non-revenue producing sports that come with a hefty price tag, football is probably number one on that list (just my guess with equipment, insurance, travel, etc…). How many people are going to be in favor of that? I’m certainly not, in an age of slimy agents and boosters I love that our football program enjoys wonderful success with true student athletes who play only because they love the game. So the only answer I know of is to make sure the basketball revenues remain at a level to pay all the bills.
By slag
March 31, 2011 1:54 PM | Link to this
XUGrad96, I despise everything and everybody (lol) associated with X but you’re correct.Absolutely no reason not to follow the path of X,Butler, Gonzaga,etc. except that we have a 13k seat arena and they know of only one way to fund everything.UD has entangled themselves in a nasty little web here. They’ve become good enough, along with the rep, to not have really good teams want to come here without the 2 for 1 and they’ve become too arrogant and greedy to give up that extra 1-2 home games, at the expense of BFE State unversity or ladies of the poor, to actually go on the road and face a good team.
By UD gal
March 31, 2011 1:37 PM | Link to this
So tough to know what Schmidt would be like since Gregory was more of an autocrat and the assistants were mute during games. That may have been by design, but as outsiders, we do not really know if they would be Gregory clones or not. Clearly tired of some things like the weave, poor FT shooting, being outcoached, constant looking to the bench for a play and repeated misses when executing last play of the half… hoping a new coach will fix some of these woes.
By Chicago
March 31, 2011 1:31 PM | Link to this
Ah, only my fellow Flyer fans would think that going from a team that made the Final Four (and who knows may end up winning a national championship)to a team that lost in the first round of the NIT (and currently has only 9 scholarship players is a “lateral move”. I say if Boals wants the job, give it to him. By the way, what’s the word on Staten? I thought for sure one of the many BCS schools they had interest from would have scooped him up.
By Patrick Talty '68
March 31, 2011 1:29 PM | Link to this
I would love to see Damon Goodwin. I don’t believe we have had a UD grad as head coach since Don Donaher … and he didn’t do too bad!! I also think Billy Schmidt would be a good choice. Just because he was BG’s assistant does mean he has the same style. After all, BG did not coach in Tommy Izzo’s style.
By VEGAS
March 31, 2011 1:22 PM | Link to this
The success of Pete Gillen: Head coaching recordSeason Team Overall Conference Standing Postseason Xavier Musketeers (Midwestern Collegiate) (1985–1994) 1985–1986 Xavier 25–5 10–2 1st NCAA 1st Round 1986–1987 Xavier 19–13 7–5 T–3rd NCAA 2nd Round 1987–1988 Xavier 26–4 9–1 1st NCAA 1st Round 1988–1989 Xavier 21–12 7–5 3rd NCAA 1st Round 1989–1990 Xavier 28–5 12–2 1st NCAA Sweet 16 1990–1991 Xavier 22–10 11–3 1st NCAA 2nd Round 1991–1992 Xavier 15–12 7–3 T–2nd 1992–1993 Xavier 24–6 12–2 T–1st NCAA 2nd Round 1993–1994 Xavier 22–8 8–2 1st NIT 3rd Round Xavier: 202–75 83–25 Providence Friars (Big East) (1994–1998) 1994–1995 Providence 17–13 7–11 T–6th NIT 2nd Round 1995–1996 Providence 18–12 9–9 3rd(BE7) NIT 2nd Round 1996–1997 Providence 24–12 10–8 2nd(BE7) NCAA Elite 8 1997–1998 Providence 13–16 7–11 4th(BE7) Providence: 72–53 53–39 Virginia Cavaliers (ACC) (1998–2005) 1998–1999 Virginia 14–16 4–12 9th 1999–2000 Virginia 19–12 9–7 3rd NIT 1st Round 2000–2001 Virginia 20–9 9–7 4th NCAA 1st Round 2001–2002 Virginia 17–12 7–9 T–5th NIT 1st Round 2002–2003 Virginia 16–16 6–10 T–6th NIT 2nd Round 2003–2004 Virginia 18–13 6–10 T–7th NIT 2nd Round 2004–2005 Virginia 14–15 4–12 T–10th Virginia: 118–93 45–67 Total: 392–221
By TNFlyer
March 31, 2011 1:07 PM | Link to this
Patman… crack me up… good post!
By 1 HATED ON
March 31, 2011 12:22 PM | Link to this
So does this mean Duke’s assistant is now out the picture? If they land the tOSU coach maybe he could talk JS & BS from transfering. If he is anything like coach Matta a set of core players would stay on the floor or rotate in & out. IDK if getting them to reconsider is an option but I thought tOSU had some interest in Staten so Boals should know his game. Excuse me if I dont feel as if trying to get JS or BS to re-consider is too much…
By Patman
March 31, 2011 12:00 PM | Link to this
Everybody on this post is overlooking the obvious!! What about picking from the 11,000+ fans who attend the games? At least half of them think they know about basketball, the other half thinks they know how to officiate?
By wrc
March 31, 2011 12:00 PM | Link to this
I don’t think Grant or Smart would make the move to UD.(1)Grant would be taking a step backwards.(2)Smart might but I doubt it as I’m sure other more powerful schools will be competing for him.Schmidt might be hurt by being on BG staff so he would have to convinced Wabler on how he would do things differently which if he is good I’m sure he can.Boals I don’t know enough to comment on.Thats the trouble with assistants,as each coach has anywhere from 3 to 4 of them and not all assistants are equal so unless he was one of Matta top two I say no.Being a assistant to a great coach does not mean he’s going to be as good.
By Patman
March 31, 2011 11:56 AM | Link to this
Everybody on this post is overlooking the obvious!! What about picking from the 11,000+ fans who attend the games? At least half of them think they know about basketball, the other half thinks they know how to officiate?
By wrc
March 31, 2011 11:55 AM | Link to this
I don’t think Grant or Smart would make the move to UD.(1)Grant would be taking a step backwards.(2)Smart might but I doubt it as I’m sure other more powerful schools will be competing for him.Schmidt might be hurt by being on BG staff so he would have to convinced Wabler on how he would do things differently which if he is good I’m sure he can.Boals I don’t know enough to comment on.Thats the trouble with assistants,as each coach has anywhere from 3 to 4 of them and not all assistants are equal so unless he was one of Matta top two I say no.Being a assistant to a great coach does not mean he’s going to be as good.
By NC Flyer
March 31, 2011 11:16 AM | Link to this
What about Pete Gillen?? or does he not want to coach anymore. You don’t hear much about him.
By MB
March 31, 2011 11:08 AM | Link to this
What about Fran Fraschilla or Pete Gillen?
By Watchdog
March 31, 2011 11:02 AM | Link to this
Whoever takes the UD job should see if they can rent Gregory’s home because it may never sell in this dead market.
By VEGAS
March 31, 2011 11:02 AM | Link to this
Schmidt is the wrong move if only for his association with BG. The program needs to make a clean break with the BG era. I would hope that Pete Gillen gets some serious consideration. He is a proven winner in the A-10 and as an A-10 commentator he is accutely aware of the talents of the current players. I hope the DDN would interview Staten on his feelings about changing his decision based on the recent developments.
By TNFlyer
March 31, 2011 10:33 AM | Link to this
Some need a reality check… Grant is on the way up, UD would be a step back from ‘Bama. Pearl may be available, but he is damaged goods, he is not just a cheater but a proven liar… not what I would call UD material. Smart will be offered “top” coaching positions, a UD move is lateral. Schmidt may be the guy, if so don’t drag this out… he has enough history with the program for an immediate yes or no.
By TNFlyer
March 31, 2011 10:32 AM | Link to this
Some need a reality check… Grant is on the way up, UD would be a step back from ‘Bama. Pearl may be available, but he is damaged goods, he is not just a cheater but a proven liar… not what I would call UD material. Smart will be offered “top” coaching positions, a UD move is lateral. Schmidt may be the guy, if so don’t drag this out… he has enough history with the program for an immediate yes or no.
By TNFlyer
March 31, 2011 10:32 AM | Link to this
Some need a reality check… Grant is on the way up, UD would be a step back from ‘Bama. Pearl may be available, but he is damaged goods, he is not just a cheater but a proven liar… not what I would call UD material. Smart will be offered “top” coaching positions, a UD move is lateral. Schmidt may be the guy, if so don’t drag this out… he has enough history with the program for an immediate yes or no.
By xugrad96
March 31, 2011 10:14 AM | Link to this
Anthony Grant is not going to come to UD from a big SEC school. It would be a step down on every level (recruits, conference and $$). Shaka Smart is now too well known and in the last 16 days became too expensive for UD to hire. As a X fan/grad living in Dayton, I have seen the passion and loyalty of UD fans first hand. As much as I am morally obligated to hate UD and everything it stands for, I will admit UD fans deserve better than what BG delivered. Now UD has the oppertunity to get a really good top assisstant from a BCS school in here to coach. After that, UD HAS to start scheduling better teams to play. Not only for the expierence of playing a quality opponent but also so the fans can see good basketball (even its a road game shown on tv). Beating Mt. St. Mary’s didnt tell you a thing about where UD basketball was…getting shelled by UC sure told you a lot didnt it??
By Tony D
March 31, 2011 9:59 AM | Link to this
Why would Anthony Grant ever consider leaving Alabama for Dayton? The only big name that might consider it would be Bruce Pearl who is suddenly down and out.
By Wes
March 31, 2011 9:56 AM | Link to this
Anthony Grant would be a great choice. Would he come to UD? What about Damon Goodwin?? Coach at Capital who has had a good run there and won the coach of the year twice.
By Philox
March 31, 2011 9:34 AM | Link to this
What about a Steve Alford or Gary Waters?
By X-flyer fan
March 31, 2011 9:27 AM | Link to this
What about Dino Guadio? Bruce pearl?
By Spoon
March 31, 2011 9:27 AM | Link to this
I know its still early but i’m sure UD knew last week that Gregory would possibly leave, with that said I think they are waiting for the outcome of the N I T and will make a pitch for Anthony Grant. Not everday does UD have a sucessful former player succeed as a coach as Grant and with his appreciation[Grant] for Don Donoher I think and . They should at least make a pitch.
By RudyFlyer
March 31, 2011 9:10 AM | Link to this
good column that many of the national TV talking heads should read. Billy Donovan gets the TV credit for both Grant and Smart’s development although Smart has spoken in interviews about his UD days. UD needs to pull the trigger here quickly or risk losing recruits. If Schmidt or Boals are capable replacements, then what is UD waiting for? BTW, I would have an issue with anyone associated with BG. I hated his offense and substitution “style” and I doubt Schmidt would change this. But, integrity is important as well. Ask Ohio State sometime this summer when the 2010 season disappears